Precious Metal And Rare Coin Information
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| This page contains entries which can save you
both time and money. These observations will also
save you a great deal of aggravation and in the
bargain make you a better informed investor if in
the beginning you understand the precious metals
and rare coins are highly random and no one not
even CNI knows what the future might hold. This
section will also answer questions about
reporting requirements, in and out of state sales
tax, precious metal and rare coin
diversification, collection appraisals, selling
precious metals or rare coins through the mail,
risk disclosure and buy/sell spreads. |
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It includes various approaches to asset
investing but actual choices and distribution are your
responsibility so consider the possibilities carefully
before instructing us as to what you want to buy or sell.
Why? Because our sales representatives do not offer
legal, investment or tax advice. You should not buy or
sell precious metals or rare coins unless you understand
and take full responsibility for your actions.
Investment in precious metals and
rare coins involves a high degree of risk including
possible loss of principal; these markets are extremely
volatile. They can also change dramatically when closed
if an unforeseen "after market" develops.
Because of these and other factors the precious metals or
rare coins may not be suitable for all individuals.
We therefore suggest a careful approach to buying or
selling precious metals or rare coins, especially if you
are new to this unregulated investment area. Do not
proceed unless you fully understand the possible risks
and rewards associated with this investment class and if
you have any questions before making up your own mind
please e-mail Ask An Expert
for an honest reply within one business day.
How do I sell my bullion to CNI when
out of state?
The process is as easy and just the reverse of
buying. First, call and describe the
product you wish to sell. It could be bullion
coins or bars, certified coins, uncertified
coins, banknotes, tokens or other numismatic
items. Second, we quote our buy price
right over the phone. If you like the quote and
want to proceed simply ask for a computer
confirmation but understand our quotes are
subject to change if the markets change while you
are considering your options. Third, a new
vendor account is created in
your name and you are given a Purchase
Order Number as opposed to an Invoice
Number when you purchase from CNI. At that point
your quote is locked in and guaranteed. In other
words we both agree to abide by our quoted price
no matter what the market direction while the
transaction is being completed. The selling
party, in this case you, is obligated
to follow through regardless of market direction
because the buyer, in this case us, has acted on
your behalf and at your direction so the trade is
legally hedged and an obligation is created by
our company. Once a vendor account is created and
you ask for price confirmation, a Purchase Order
Number is generated and you are legally obligated
and cannot change your mind about the trade. So
please take your time and be absolutely certain
this is what you want before asking us to act on
your behalf. If you are out of state securely
wrap (insulate so nothing rattles) and fully
insure the package in a timely manner. A
timely manner means your package must be in the
mail on the same day you call us, or your
telephone privilege will be taken away.
An example here might prove helpful: If you want
to sell us a bullion product late Friday night
and cannot get to the Post Office until Monday
please wait until Monday before asking for a
Purchase Order. We recommend only insured US mail
and include your inventory list, purchase order
number, and daytime telephone number. Your money
is mailed in a timely manner usually within 5
days or less after receiving your package
depending on how many sellers are in front of
you. If you have additional questions call Brent
Galaway or Ken Slater directly (800-225-7531).
Also keep in mind that the US mail delivers
millions of dollars worth of inventory to us each
year. It is a safe and secure way of conducting
business nationally.
List
of Reportable Bullion Transactions
The majority of bullion and rare coin
transactions are not reportable to Uncle Sam.
For those transactions which are reportable the
rules can be confusing because there are also
minimum size requirements so checking with your
tax consultant before taking action is a good
idea. If the few government reporting
requirements bother you, it is easy to do your
homework and avoid products which fall into the
reporting area. There are many low
premium bullion bars & coins that have no
reporting requirement and move directly with the
spot market. If you're an advocate of
the secrecy gurus, and can visit us in person,
take advantage of "no name" invoices
that are legal and make up a great number of our
daily transactions.
The following is what The
Industry Council For Tangible Assets has
to offer about what the I.R.S. wants in the way
of paper work. They are describing the paper work
provided by bullion dealers which relate to what
you purchase or sell. These rules are taken from
the ICTA newsletter Washington Wire dated
December, 2004.
First: You can place any
size order and pay with a check. No one
cares, not even the government. The only
time they want to hear from us is if you
invest more than $10,000 in cash or money
orders. Then you must fill out I.R.S.
Form 8300. There is nothing wrong with
large cash transactions, but the
government wants to know about them. And,
by the way, you can't spend $5000 today
and $6000 tomorrow, for Uncle Sam does
not like to be fooled.
Second: There are rules
which apply only to bullion and only when
you sell. They have
nothing to do with your purchases, and do
not apply to rare coins. Kilo
bars are 32.15 troy ounces of gold
and are subject to reporting. We are also
required to report any gold bar
sale totaling 32.15 ounces are
more. Concerning 1 troy oz. gold coin
transactions: If you sell 25
coins or more of the Krugerrand, Maple
Leaf or Mexican Gold Onza we are
required to report them on I.R.S. Form
1099B. Such reporting is not required on
transactions involving the U.S. Gold
Eagle the Australian Kangaroo or the
Austrian Philharmonic. There is also no
reporting on any small gold bullion
coins.
Third: We are required to
report $1000 face 90% silver bags
and 1000 ounce silver bar
transactions only when you sell to us. We
are not asked to report the sale of 40%
bags or less than $1000 face in 90%
silver coin. The 10 and 1 ounce silver
bar is exempt as long as the sale does
not exceed 1000 ounces.
Fourth: Platinum
or palladium bars in quantities of 25
ounces or more are reportable.
Platinum bullion coins like the Canadian
Maple Leaf, the U.S. platinum Eagle, or
the Australian Koala are exempt.
Palladium bullion coins like the Russian
Ballerina are exempt. If these rules seem
arbitrary we don't blame you. We believe
our government based their decisions on
what was traded on the nation's commodity
exchanges and had little to do with what
was happening in coin stores across
America.
For a more complete discussion,
read Richard
Schwary's Rules for Reportable Bullion & Cash
Transactions or Lack Thereof.
The CNI Balanced
Portfolio Concept:
With all the hard asset choices now available it
is much easier for investors to choose which
combination will best fit their expectation. Your
choices are gold, silver, or platinum bullion
coins and bars, semi-numismatic coins or
certified PCGS rare coins. And the more you
understand and learn about each area the more you
will realize that each has a different potential.
In other words, while they are similar in that
they may react to inflation their short, medium,
and long term price action can be significantly
different.
So what do you do? We believe the best approach
is to carefully investigate all 5 asset areas for
yourself and build a balanced portfolio which
best suits your personal needs. This approach is
the cornerstone of diversification and the
approach we recommend. Let's say you want to
invest $25,000 and are wondering how to proceed?
The distribution is your choice but you might
want to consider placing $5000 in gold bullion,
$5000 in silver bullion, $5000 in platinum
bullion, $5000 in semi-numismatic coins and $5000
in PCGS graded rare coins. Now you may decide
that silver is not for you and move that $5000
allocation into more platinum or gold bullion or
PCGS rare coins but the idea is to diversify over
those areas which you believe best suit your
goals.
So it's good investment wisdom to understand how
each of these areas can benefit your investment
plan. A plan based on the theory that over time,
the dollar will lose value and hard assets will
move higher because of this devaluation. And
after you have the basics in place, the secret
behind such planning is patience. All investors
must plan for the long term and consider possible
short term profits a windfall. Why? Because
history has shown that years, perhaps even
decades, may be necessary to make hard asset
portfolios profitable. So the diversified
investment approach is based on the systematic
and long-term buying of these 5 different areas.
We believe the accumulation of gold, silver and
platinum bullion in conjunction with high grade
PCGS rare coins is simply sound financial
planning. As you learn more you will find all
five related areas react differently to world
events and have different supply/demand
characteristics. The percentage of dollar
allotment you devote to any given area is arrived
at by matching your specific objectives to your
temperament. If you are a short-term player and
want a fast in and out approach you should have a
greater percentage of your money in bullion coins
and bars as commissions are the smallest and
replacement is easy. If you're patient and are
looking for profits based on past price history
your selections will include high grade PCGS
certified rare coins but remember the difference
between the buy and sell on this asset class is
larger so short term trading must be avoided. The
idea however is simply to spread your investment
dollars around and not be limited to one specific
area because each class provides its own set of
advantages and disadvantages. There is no
guarantee that any combination will produce a
profit and you could lose money if you choose the
wrong combination but the idea is to hold these
asset groups as a kind of insurance protection
against the uncertain future of paper money.
Always avoid dealer-controlled
coin storage programs, even those offered by
reputable and well-established firms. Literally
millions of dollars in investor funds have been
lost when the company closes its doors and
material "on-deposit" is nowhere to be
found. We have recommended bank storage for years
and found it totally safe and secure. If the
volume of material is large, which might be the
case for say, large silver bullion positions and
you simply don't want to store everything
yourself consider a professional independent
storage facility like Delaware Depository (DDSC)
which is used by the Chicago
Board of Trade (CBOT).
Avoid high-pressure sales tactics
and if you feel uncomfortable buying a coin or
bar from a phone person it can be a warning
signal. When in doubt sleep on it and decide the
following day. CNI does not use commissioned
salespeople since this method wrongly places the
dealer's interest before that of the consumer. To
be fair some firms do use commissioned people and
they believe in their products. So it's natural
for them to get excited over a coin. That's good
for it brings you an opportunity, but make sure
you ask questions and understand the details. A
slower approach is a good idea especially if you
are new to this business. Also keep in mind
ethical dealers are not interested in bothering
you. If you receive unwanted calls just explain
this fact, and if they persist draw your own
conclusions. The US protects consumers from
unwanted phone calls and the process is easy with
this link: US
Government Do Not Call Registry
Make a distinction early on
between bullion related bars or coins and certified
rare coins. There is a big difference and not
understanding this can lead you down a bumpy
investment road. Read on for more details but the
litmus test when investing in gold is to ask this
simple question: "If the spot price of gold
moves up say 4% will the coin Im buying
provide me a profit?" If the answer is yes,
you are solidly in the bullion category. If the
answer is no you are considering something beside
bullion, which is not necessarily wrong, just be
sure you know what you are buying. Here are a few
more tips that will help define a bullion
purchase: First a bullion
investment is defined by a bullion coin or bar
which is not certified and trades for close to
its weight. It will go up or down
following the commodity price, and there
is no rarity involved. But here is where it gets
tricky. Always figure the cost per ounce of a
bullion product for yourself. It is easy to
figure what a 1 ounce bullion gold coin should
cost but more obscure when the bullion coin gets
smaller. And don't assume that because the dealer
is cheap on large bullion coins he will also
treat you right on smaller bullion coins. We are
not a big fan of the so-called "confiscation
possibility" which is often raised today,
but if you are the smaller bullion coins like the
British Sovereign (0.235 oz. Pure Gold) or the
French or Swiss 20 Franc (0.186 oz. Pure Gold)
work well. Just be sure to multiply their weight
times the price of gold. Some dealers charge up
to twice our selling price for these smaller
bullion coins hoping the buyer will not compare
prices. If challenged on their higher selling
prices these dealers tell the uninformed investor
that their coins are better quality and so are
higher priced. This justification is not true
because of the following: All large dealers
buy these gold coins from the same international
sources, pay the same price, and get the same
quality. The extra money you pay goes into
large overheads and commissioned sales. Second
a certified rare coin may be weight related like
the $20 gold piece, but usually is not. When
investing in PCGS certified rare coins you are
investing in rarity. Price increases depend not
so much on higher commodity prices (although it
helps) but more on growing demand and shrinking
supply. So how do you know if you are paying too
much for a certified rare coin? Just like
anything else you check around and compare
prices. After you have established a good
relationship with a dealer this issue becomes
less important but in the beginning do your
pricing homework.
Beware of unrealistic promises
for there are no coin genies waiting to recommend
the one coin that will make you rich. In fact no
one knows for sure if any coin investment will
produce a profit. All hard assets go up and down
in price over the years. The best chance anyone
has is to prepare for an up cycle with recognized
bullion products and quality rare coins. It is
fair to say that investors have made fortunes in
rare coins and precious metals over the long
term. But just as much money has been lost to
those who were forced to sell in a down market, did
not do their pricing homework before a purchase,
or got caught up in some "get rich"
scheme heard over conservative or religious talk
radio. Speakers like Glenn Beck and unfortunately
a few religious leaders are paid an extra
fee to "push" products because
sponsors have learned that if you like the
political message you will believe they have your
best interest in mind. This leads the new
investor to a "blind purchase" which in
this unregulated trade is dangerous. Some of the
largest companies on the airways with A+ BBB
rating and polished presentations are the biggest
offenders and even with a stream of consumer
complaints it is unlikely the Federal Trade
Commission or Congress can correct this problem.
When comparing certified rare
coin pricing make sure you get the price and
grade correct because one point difference in the
grade will make a great deal of difference in the
price. Also note that the two most acceptable
grading services are PCGS and NGC and prices
between these two services will vary depending on
relative populations. And a word to the wise in
that PCGS and NGC are the best in the trade but
there are other grading services, some of which
use similar looking holders, which do not produce
consistent grading results and should be avoided.
Keep in mind that dealership size
has little to do with honesty or good pricing. Of
the 5 top national rare coin dealers that are
well known for radio or television advertising, 3
are so far off the pricing mark on certified
coins as to make your chances of making a profit
very small indeed. Most investors shopping these
companies could have saved a full 25% on every
coin! So what to do? The answer is
straightforward: Shop around before you invest
your money. Don't believe that just because the
company is large that they have your best
interest in mind. Also keep in mind that if you
are given a great deal of legal disclaimers
before the sale consider carefully before signing
off on any transactions. You may give yourself no
out if the company you are dealing with has
vetted all their paper work to protect them and
not you.
Learn not to leave money on the
table when selling your certified coins. Even
with the grading standard established by PCGS in
1986 there could be some variance in the assigned
grade. That is shop talk for making sure when you
sell your coins the buying dealer is not
upgrading the coins and putting the money in his
pocket. A good rule to follow is that if you have
old PCGS coin holders get an opinion as to
whether the coin might upgrade before you sell.
There are federal forms that must
be filled out when you pay or receive $10,000 or
more in cash (the real green kind). And no you
can't invest $5000 in cash today and $6000 in
cash tomorrow for Uncle Sam does not like to be
fooled. If you deal in checks or wires no one
cares about the size of the deal and there is no
reporting when buying.
It is your responsibility to
report losses or gains on your income tax
returns, but this type of reporting is not our
responsibility. Contrary to what some believe
your local coin and bullion dealer is not an
agent for the government. They must follow a few
simple rules which for the most part do not
interfere with free trade.
Sales over $1500 within
California are not subject to state sales tax,
and neither is any product mailed out of state.
The foundation of rare coin
investment centers on a coin's condition. This
condition defines its rarity. As condition
increases so does rarity. This is true because
most people used early coinage for commerce thus
making high grade uncirculated examples difficult
to locate. This in turn made them more desirable
and overtime more expensive. Certified rare coins
are described using the Sheldon Scale. It begins
at 1 for a just recognizable coin and progresses
to 70 for a theoretically perfect coin. As the
grade on the Sheldon Scale increases so does
rarity and price. It is also generally accepted
that the higher the grade the better the
investment potential. Most investment grades fall
somewhere between MS63 and MS66 unless you are
considering very early federal issues. These
early coins are seldom available in Mint State so
PCGS circulated grades are the norm.
You will notice we have stayed
between MS63 and MS66 because you get more for
your investment dollar. The cost of so-called
"super-grades" (MS67 and higher) can be
prohibitive and accurate pricing is sometimes
difficult. Be careful of this area unless you
really know what you are doing.
When considering rare coins stay
within your budget, purchase the highest grade
available, and balance rarity with popularity. An
MS64 example of any coin is better than the same
coin in MS63 condition. Likewise an MS65 example
is better than an MS64 if it fits your budget.
The reasoning behind this rule is simply that as
the condition of a coin increases, its rarity
moves up dramatically. A one-point increase on
the grading scale may increase rarity by 2 or 3
times. Also keep in mind that coin popularity can
be more important than rarity. Popularity creates
price increases.
Never purchase an investment rare
coin unless it is graded by The Professional Coin
Grading Service (PCGS). It follows that you
should avoid other grading services that are
described as "just as good as or even better
than PCGS". This is important because the
price of a rare coin is tied to its condition. A
mistake in the grade can alter value
dramatically. Differences in grading prior to
PCGS (1986) led to difficulties. What was an MS65
dollar to one might not qualify to another. This
issue was resolved when PCGS began independent
grading and encapsulation of rare coins for a
fee. PCGS is not in the business of buying or
selling coins and developed "Third Party
Grading" to such a degree that it is an
accepted standard among America's top 300
dealers. You can buy PCGS MS65 coins in
California and receive fair value for them in New
York.
Remember The 40-Year Rule
in rare coin investing. Simply stated you should
avoid rare coins that are less than 40 years old.
Why? Because there has not been enough time to
establish a secondary market that will provide
valuable pricing information. Also understand
that age does not equal rarity or value. An
Indian Head cent in circulated condition is old
but will never be rare because the US struck
millions, most of which are still available
today. Another general rule might help as a place
to begin: Investors considering coins struck
after the Civil War might choose an uncirculated
example because they are available. From the
early beginnings of the Philadelphia mint (1794)
to the early 1860's such uncirculated examples
are rare and expensive so investors must now
consider higher grade circulated coins simply
because there is little other choice.
Avoid high premium
Mint Issues, Proof Sets and modern so-called
"investment" coins. These are easy to
spot because they are usually sold under the
guise of "limited production runs"
therefore creating the notion of production
rarity. There are hundreds of low mintage gold
coins which go into the melting pot each year.
Paying a small premium
for such bullion related products is fun and if
you get lucky can result in additional profits.
Good examples of small premium gold coins are the
Lunar Series and some China Mint products. An
area to avoid because of high premiums would be
"certified bullion coins".
Certification only matters if the condition of
the coin is important. Since bullion coins trade
for close to their metal content the notion that
certification adds something to the value of the
coin is nonsense. If you are buying bullion coins
pay for weight, there is no rare coin value and
the PCGS populations are meaningless.
Buying a high-grade coin
emphasizes that coin's condition and therefore
its rarity. As opposed to making its date and
mint mark an important feature. Investing in
condition rarity has a large and well-developed
following. It also has plenty of printed
material, including price graphs, which makes
your investing choices a bit easier.
Ask plenty of questions before
you purchase hard assets. Any professional dealer
will welcome the opportunity to fully explain
these markets. That is his job, and such
knowledge will help you decide which coins are
right for your particular situation. If a dealer
cannot explain the good and bad points of any
coin transaction be careful, as it may indicate
he is more interested in a sale than your
long-term business.
Sell a coin now and then to get
an understanding of how the market works. We
don't suggest using this tactic with abandon but
it is a great way to see how you're doing. Even
if you're not interested in selling ask your
dealer what your coins are worth from time to
time. It is good business for both buyer and
seller and it will give you some valuable
insight. At the same time such interchange may
produce opportunities to better your position
should a particular issue move up or down.
Don't be afraid of a falling
market. Believe it or not there are many great
opportunities to build significant collections
when prices are going down simply because
everything begins to look affordable. You should
be investing for the long term and over many
years markets tend to recover and move higher. So
the investor who has time on his side has a
significant advantage.
If possible visit your
dealership, for this will tell you many things
about the way they do business, as opposed to
taking their word for everything. A dealer's
place of business will tell you much about how he
looks at you, the customer.
If your collection is a bunch of
"stuff", take the time to sell
inexpensive and common material. You are then in
a good position to replace it with quality. This
is important because poor quality coins are more
common than higher grades and therefore do not
perform as well in a rising market. If you're not
sure we are happy to look at the collection and
make recommendations based on your needs. And
should you decide to sell we always pay more in
trade.
Avoid misleading ads designed to
make you think the coin offer is coming from the
US government. This is done all the time and
first-time buyers are easily fooled so watch for
the "Not affiliated or endorsed by the US
Mint" which appears at the bottom of the ad
and is the best our government can do to protect
the honest taxpayer. This investment folly is
easily avoided if you shop around as the price
for those "100 year old Morgan silver
dollars, just released from the Federal
Mint" dissolves in a puff of smoke.
It has also become popular for
coins to be sold on television. When people see
coins and banknotes on TV, they may believe there
is a great deal at hand. In fact just the
opposite is true. Any article sold on television
requires a substantial markup because such
advertising is expensive.
If possible, do business with
members of The Professional Numismatists Guild
(PNG). The PNG has represented the very best the
coin industry has to offer since 1955. Members
must past strict background and financial
scrutiny while demonstrating complete competence
within the trade. This organization is the only
one that offers the consumer binding arbitration
in case of problems. If you don't like the way a
PNG dealer treats you it is easy to contact the
Guild's Executive Director and arrange a simple
three way arbitration that costs nothing and is
legally binding.
What is your company policy on
collection appraisals?
Answer: Our policy on
appraising your collection is simple and we
guarantee your satisfaction. Call Ken Slater toll
free (1-800-225-7531) and explain what you are
trying to accomplish. Some folks can get a
pricing answer right over the phone as Ken has
been doing this for more than 20 years. If your
intention is to sell your collection it may be
necessary to send us the collection using
registered and insured US mail. Either way Ken
will explain value and procedure to make sure the
collection is mailed securely making further
evaluation easier. When we sign for your package,
inventory control will check contents against
your packing slip and notify you of its arrival.
Ken will look up and grade each numismatic coin
and make a note as to what we will pay for that
particular item. He will do this for every
numismatic coin in the collection and then add
the value of any bullion product relative to the
closing price the day of arrival. He will then
call you with a total and answer any questions
you may have including an explanation of how he
arrived at the valuation. After you have all this
information the decision to sell is up to you and
the family. For the record we pay great prices
because we need virtually everything saving you
time and money. In 95% of all cases the customer
is more than happy with our offer and we spend
millions of dollars each year purchasing
collections from all over the United States. But
what happens if you don't like our buying prices?
That is no problem, we are here to make you happy
so we will simply repackage your collection and
mail it back to you. We use registered and
insured mail and include a check refunding your
original mailing costs. You really have nothing
to lose and could get considerably more using our
convenient system. If you already have an
appraisal and want to know if you are being
treated fairly, ask Ken for his guaranteed 10%
better bid. If he can't beat your best offer by
10% he will tell you and this will make your
final decision easier.
How secure and private is my
contact information with CNI?
For your safety and security we at California
Numismatic Investments shred all Fax's, e-mails
and hand written business notes using a
professional service called Shred It
(Santa Fe Springs, CA). We also do not share or
sell information including names, addresses or
e-mails for any reason.
The word numismatic is in your name,
what exactly does it mean?
Answer: Numismatics is the
study of coins and currency in their historical
context. As it relates to CNI we focus on the
coins and currency of the United States but the
formal discipline actually encompasses a much
larger area. It includes virtually anything that
was used as money or a form of exchange. A
numismatist is an individual who collects,
invests, or studies rare coins or money related
items that were used to transact business.
What balance should I have between
hard assets and my other investments?
Answer: Everyone should make
their own decision on this but a conservative
approach is simply use 10% to 20% of your total
investment dollars to purchase
inflation-sensitive precious metals and certified
rare coins. Most financial planners suggest the
rest of your money should be in traditional
vehicles like stocks, bonds, real estate and
T-Bills.
Should I trade my gold bullion coins
for platinum bullion coins?
Answer: Actually the investor
should have some of each in a balanced hard asset
holding. Some investors, however, trade a portion
of their gold bullion for platinum bullion if the
price of platinum is close to the price of gold.
This is done because platinum sometimes trades
for more than twice the price of gold so when the
two metals are close in price the expectation is
that platinum will outperform gold over the long
term and thus be more profitable.
I like silver bullion and lately it
has been getting a lot of press, so what do you
think about silver investment?
Answer: I have always liked
silver but let me also note that silver
investment means silver bullion not a rare coin
made of silver. There is a huge difference and
some folks are fooled by quick-talking
telemarketers into believing that silver coins in
general are an investment in silver. When the
trade talks about physical investment in silver
we mean specifically silver bullion which
trades for a small premium over melt value.
And remember the only truly safe way to
accomplish this is by taking physical delivery
and devising your own safe storage. Common
examples are: 1, 10, and 100 ounce silver bars,
500 count boxes of US and Canadian silver one
ounce coins, and 1000 ounce COMEX bars (a very
cheap way to own silver bullion but not my
favorite simply because they are too heavy). Also
included on the preferred bullion list are $1000
Face 90% silver bags (dimes, quarters, or half
dollars struck in 1964 or sooner) and $1000 Face
40% bags (half dollars only struck between 1965
and 1969). Believe it or not the old silver
dollars (struck in 1935 or sooner and containing
about 3/4 of an ounce of silver) are not actually
a bullion product because their premium is too
high. There are other silver bullion products but
this will give you an idea, just remember to
choose a well recognized product and add a small
premium over melt.
What do you think about investing in
certified bullion coins?
Answer: This area has turned
out to be very controversial. The notion of
grading a bullion coin has never made any sense
because they are all perfect. Why pay the
additional fees and a premium based on grade if
when you are ready to sell no dealer will return
the favor? Another recent development is the
so-called First Strike program. There is already
litigation posed by a Florida collector who
claims that the grading services can't use the
term First Strike because they have no idea when
the coins were actually struck. It is best, until
this controversy is cleared up to avoid this
area. There are many other great places to put
your investment money.
What do you suggest for those who
purchased coins and bars at higher levels and are
now losing money?
Answer: Remember these
investments will go up and down over time, so the
longer you can wait the better the chance of
having these markets move in your direction. But
if you're tired of waiting or have some
compelling reason to sell, like an offsetting
gain, consider selling your coins and
establishing a tax loss. You can repurchase your
position in a few months and still take advantage
of the tax loss. Always check such things out
with your tax man before making any decision.
I purchased rare coins twenty years
ago. Should I send them to PCGS?
Answer: This is always a good
idea given the quality of the coin is high
enough. Obviously the value must be enough to
justify the cost of certification and insurance.
Don't certify a coin worth $30 because it could
be easily sold "as-is". It is a good
idea to certify more expensive material even if
you're not thinking of selling anytime soon
because after the process price evaluation is
fast and easy.
Do you think it is a good idea to
have fractional size gold bullion coins?
Answer: All producers of
bullion coins make 1/10 oz., 1/4 oz., and 1/2 oz.
sizes and many survivalists believe such coins
should be accumulated in case you need emergency
size money. You will pay a premium for these
smaller sizes but to some the added expense is
worth it to have "real money" in hand
if needed.
Are
coin prices listed in A Guide
Book Of United States Coins accurate?
Answer: The prices in the
"Red Book", as it has come to be known,
are updated annually by veteran contributors and
the general information is accurate when
provided. The daily prices of coins, however, are
also monitored on what is known as the Certified
Coin Exchange, which is a satellite-controlled
computer trading system. The largest dealers in
the nation actively trade on this system daily so
prices can change at any time much the same way
stocks move on active exchanges. For coins which
are rare and seldom offered dealer to dealer or
"private treaty" and auction prices are
significant sources. The price of coins in the
"Red Book" is a good place to begin but
you will need more information.
What is the difference between a 1
oz. gold coin and a bar of the same weight?
Answer: Modern bullion coins
and bar are very close to one another as far as
acceptability and price so you really can't go
wrong with either. There could be a case made for
saving a few dollars by choosing the lowest
premium or avoiding very large bars because you
give up the option of divisibility but in general
each product will move directly with the market.
Is it true that if you invest $1500
or more in California there is no sales tax?
Answer: As of 2009 there is no
sales tax charged within California if you invest
$1500 or more for precious metals or rare coins.
There is one exception to this rule in that
platinum bars are always subject to Sales tax if
delivery is taken within the state and remember
that no sales tax is charged for out of state
transactions.
How can a coin have marks on it and
still be considered uncirculated?
Answer: The marks you are
referring to are called "bag-marks"
and, as the name implies, were picked up because
the reeded edges of some coins created these
marks on others while still in the original Mint
storage bags. Most coins display such marks, even
high grade uncirculated examples, although as the
grade increases the number of these marks
decreases. For a coin to be uncirculated it does
not have to be mark free, it must only lack the
usual surface abrasion which comes with
circulation.
I saw a posted price that was too low
relative to recent changes in the market. What do
you make of that?
Answer: We do our best to post accurate
daily prices. There could however be
typographical errors on rare occasions. For these
we apologize and correct such mistakes
immediately. We are not however responsible for
such occasional errors and reserve the right to
change such mistakes as they come to our
attention.
The dollar amount over spot sometimes
varies over time on your bullion coins. Why is
this figure not constant?
Answer: If you notice the difference
between our buy and sell (sometimes call the
"spread") is relatively constant but is
subject to change with changing trading
conditions. The dollar amount relative to spot
will vary with the trader's actual physical
position. This happens because we hold the real
coins and bars in inventory. When our trader's
position is too high he simply charges less and
sells for less. When his inventory position is
too low he charges more and pays more. That is
why the actual price we charge over spot may
drift over time and market conditions. Also keep
in mind that the difference or spread between
bullion products may change, especially if
markets are volatile, as traders need this
flexibility to conduct an orderly
market.
Risk Disclosure ~ Trader's Option ~
Buy/Sell Spreads
Precious metals and certified rare coins, involve
risk, therefore profitability can not be
guaranteed. It is understood this firm, its
employees or officers, may buy, sell, or have an
interest in the recommended items. As with any
investment our recommendations are subject to the
buyer's own good judgment and research. And while
we try to answer each and every question in a
reasonable manner, there is a limit to even our
patience, so we reserve the right to refuse
service to anyone. While due care has been
exercised in development and dissemination of
this web site, our newsletter, or other
promotional material, there is no guarantee of
correctness so this corporation and its employees
shall be held harmless in all cases. Our
employees are not registered financial advisors
but most have years of experience in the gold
business. It is further understood that our
employee's suggestions or opinions, and all other
promotional material is provided for
informational purposes only. California
Numismatic Investments, Inc. and its employees do
not render legal, tax, or investment advice. No
person knows for certain what the future may hold
so price projections based on past events may not
be reliable. We do, however, study past trends in
an effort to evaluate possible future
opportunities because it makes sense to us. We
suggest each person investigate carefully all
choices and options before investing in precious
metals or certified rare coins. Use more than one
information source, talk to a financial planner
and take your time in deliberating which choices
are best for you. Why? Because all precious metal
and rare coin investments involve risk, you could
lose money and so they may not be suitable for
everyone. Because of the volatility inherent in
precious metals and PCGS certified coins use
venture capital only and in no case risk more
than you can afford to lose. Also note that there
are physical limitations when dealing with the
precious metals and rare coins. We only provide
our "best effort" in making daily
markets but sometimes, due to mint production or
hedging problems or time constraints or system
overload such a buy or sell quote cannot be
supplied.
Also note that grading
standards have changed in the past and could do
so in the future. Certification of rare coins by
PCGS does not guarantee protection against the
normal risks associated with potentially volatile
markets. We reserve the right to change our buy
or sell prices, or spreads, without notice,
relative to after market conditions or perceived
changes in the physical bullion market. We also
reserve the right to change our buy or sell
prices, or spreads, without notice, in the
certified rare coin market relative to The
Certified Coin Exchange or The Coin Dealer
Newsletter (The Grey Sheet). We try our best to
interpret these markets but the final arbitrator
of these changes will be in all cases the owner's
of California Numismatic Investments, Ken Edwards
or Richard Schwary.
What is your spread between
the buy and sell price of various products?
In the precious metals business this answer will
depend on market volatility, relative price and
the nature of the product you choose.
Bullion Coins or Bars: The
difference between the buy and sell usually
varies between 1% and 4% on gold and up to 5% on
silver. This market is driven by speculators and
folks who believe real money can't be defined by
paper currency. This market can be volatile and
subject to dramatic moves depending on public
confidence. Consider investing up to 70%
of your hard asset money in this specific area.
Semi-Numismatic Coins: An
example of this area would be non-certified,
circulated $20 gold pieces. The difference
between our buy and sell is about 10%. So the
spread is larger than regular bullion, but you
get a rarity advantage which may lead to better
price action and possible confiscation
protection. Consider investing up to 10%
of your hard asset money in this specific area.
PCGS Certified Rare Coins:
Of these three investment areas the difference
between the buy and sell in this case can be the
largest, coming in between 10% and 20%; but time
has shown this area can be a solid long-term
money producer given you take the time to educate
yourself and in so doing make the right choices.
This is true because relative rarity and the
difficulty in locating an example are only two
primary driving forces. There are three others
which are important: First, a large collecting
and investing base has been established since the
beginning of the 20th Century. This
can push prices higher and shrink the available
supply but such price action is not guaranteed.
Second, the readily available price history of
rare coins dating from the early 1970's provides
investors important information. And, third, case
studies show carefully chosen rare coins can
provide currency and inflation protection over
the long term. Consider investing up to
20% of your hard asset money in this specific
area.
So which area is the
correct choice? Actually no person can
tell you what the future may bring and hind sight
is always perfect so once you make up your mind
don't beat yourself up if you are wrong, that is
the beauty of diversification. Sometimes bullion
leads the race and may outperform semi-numismatic
or PCGS Certified Rare Coins. Over the longer
term carefully chosen rare coins have done better
than both bullion and semi-numismatic choices,
but the spreads tend to be larger and past
performance is not a guarantee of what may happen
in the future. Depending on random market forces
you may find one area outperforms the other two
and it is just as likely that the others may
catch up or surpass your original choice. This is
true because public demand creates an unpredictable
market dynamic, which is why we suggest
a diversified approach. Since the 1970's a
combination of precious metals and rare coins
seems to be the right choice. Each has surged and
retreated in value according to how much faith
investors have in the dollar, the price of oil
and other related factors.
It is important to make your own
choices and exercise your own common sense in
these markets for the precious metals and
certified rare coins can and often do change
dramatically in price. Depending on market
direction you could profit handsomely, make no
money at all, or lose money. And you should
always be aware there is a difference between our
buy and sell prices. That is how we earn a
living. This difference can change without notice
and is solely determined on a day by day basis
relative to the trader's position, market
volatility, and the ability to resell products in
the wholesale market. Before investing, take the
time to ask an independent investment
professional and don't invest unless you ask
questions, fully understand, and accept the
possible risk and reward inherent in the precious
metals and certified rare coin markets.
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Have
a question?
Answer: If, after reading and
consulting more than one source you have further
questions about rare coins or precious metals I want you
to email me directly before you proceed: RSchwary@aol.com
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